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Re: broken chain mystery

Posted: 13 Apr 2015, 10:52
by lee
Cabernet wrote:I love ❤ my shaft.
High on the list of things the next bike must have.
Fuck these chains.

Re: broken chain mystery

Posted: 13 Apr 2015, 10:59
by Stumoores
It's only a bike if it's got a chain. It's half a car if it's got a shaft


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Re: broken chain mystery

Posted: 13 Apr 2015, 11:41
by Paul m0kdm
If it's an O ring or X ring type chain aggressive cleaning can damage the seals and flush out the factory injected lubricant. This can lead to localised heating of the links due to friction. Hot metal expands, and basically something's got to give. Just a wipe over with a paraffin soaked rag to clean it, then a lube, job done.
No acid, wire brushes etc. Even the 3 sided chain cleaning brushes can damage the seals if you're not careful.

Yep, I've done it. :-)

Re: broken chain mystery

Posted: 13 Apr 2015, 14:09
by ned
Dooffle wrote:Doubtful that corrosion would have caused the failure, unless it was very badly pitted. It's also possible that acid cleaning has compounded a slight flaw in the material.

Was it the soft link (joining link)? If so it is likely that a stress fracture was caused buy the link being peened.
The pin looks in good condition so unlikely to be caused by a tight link. The cause could also be from a single high force incident ie sudden impact.
Could have been a small inclusion in the material.
Without a good look at the fracture face to asses the type of break it's hard to say.
PS this is the sort of thing I do for a day job.




Last year I had an expensive chain (£120) break, clean through a link, stress fracture. Nowhere near the soft link.
Bought a chain for £60 due to emergency, I have only just adjusted it after 2.5k miles, including 2 trackdays.
The fracture you can see that has the rusted surface I's deffo an old one and the soft link is in good order. It is looking mire like my falling of the bike stressed the offending link

Re: broken chain mystery

Posted: 13 Apr 2015, 18:05
by Stumoores
Hydrogen embrittlement


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Re: broken chain mystery

Posted: 13 Apr 2015, 19:41
by Dooffle
pch1 wrote:
Dooffle wrote:
face to asses...
PS this is the sort of thing I do for a day job.

Face to arses? Don't think I'd like your job mate, sounds a bit shit if you ask me lol

Viva BMW shaft drive \o/
:shock: ;)

Re: broken chain mystery

Posted: 13 Apr 2015, 21:37
by ned
What the fuck is hydrogen embrittlement? ?

Re: broken chain mystery

Posted: 13 Apr 2015, 22:46
by Cabernet
ned wrote:What the fuck is hydrogen embrittlement? ?
Ice cold hydrogen, the waste gas being exhausted at high pressure from the flux capacitor causing cryogenic freezing.